Student Challenges to the Orthodox Economics Teaching Monopoly
Chris Dillow at Stumbling and
Mumbling Blog HERE
“From the left, we have Seamus Milne. He points to Manchester University students
who are campaigning
for a more pluralistic economics curriculum as a sign that
"orthodox economist have failed their own market test. Granted, he could
have widened the evidence base; there's a similar movement at Cambridge,
at least. But he omits two facts:
- Demand to study ("orthodox") economics at university has
risen 33% in the last six years, whilst applications to university generally are up
by only 19%.
- At least two universities - Oxford and Manchester; I know
coz I took 'em - used to offer courses in the history of economic thought, but
dropped them in part for lack of demand.
These two facts suggest
that demand for "orthodox" economics is strong. It's too damned
strong in my book, but things are as they are, not as
we'd like them to be. (And anyway, the truth or not of "orthodox"
economics is not to be decided by what undergraduates think.)
Comment
The always interesting,
as he challenging, Chris Dillow, an economist with his feet on the ground, not
in the clouds, who’s particular interests in aspects of the history of economic
thought (Ricardo, Sraffa) is not a standard fixed-track, neoclassical
economist.
He plays down in that
traditional Oxford manner, so annoying to non-Oxford people, the significance of
these latest challenges to the dominant paradigm among the majority of
departments teaching economics that is immersed in mathematics.
Dillow is full competent
in maths as his Blog shows regularly, but how far he his neo-classical is not
so obvious. He is a realist from
the pessimistic wing of critics of the prevailing orthodoxy.
As I understand what the
mainly Manchester and Oxford undergraduates are asking for is a wider curriculum
that neo-classical, mainly maths, focus on what they teach them at university. I find this indicative of a broader
malaise I find among many economists with whom I converse on occasion. They know something is not quite right
in the hallowed truths they are taught, and were and are required to teach
others, but are not yet sure what is missing that give them more assurance to
happily teach the syllabi in future.
Having met several
Manchester academics over the years, including recently, and including one or
two authorities on Ricardo and Sraffa, who were also members of the UK History
of Economic Thought Society, and who are close or beyond retirement, I sense changes
are taking place that will reduce further open interest in work on classical
economic thought and it modern derivatives
Maybe, the students are
reacting to further dilution of studying beyond outright neoclassical
orthodoxy, a prevailing dogma that answers fewer and fewer questions about the
current economy, here and elsewhere. I remember vaguely, a similar ruffling of
the feathers over at Professor Mankew’s class at Harvard, back a few months, and
his strictly limited to neoclassical orthodoxy teaching and famous
textbooks. Chris reports something
happening at Cambridge too. I know
of attempts in Australia to downgrade research in the history of economic ideas
that met with furious resistance across the teaching departments.
Chris points to evidence that he implies challenges the students' views:
“Demand to study
("orthodox") economics at university has risen 33% in the last six
years, whilst applications to university generally are up
by only 19%.”
I am surprised that this
is used as evidence by Chris.
1. Students applying to
universities are hardly in a position to know what is in the syllabi in
sufficient detail to make a judgement that they did not want to go to anywhere
teaching the history of economic thought. I didn’t know at the time what the details were
nor could I judge what was relevant or not-relevant, other than having passed A-level
economics (and Scottish Highers).
As students become informed,
they have a better ideas as to what is missing and that’s why they may
eventually suggest to faculty their views in 3rd year (or 4th
year in Scotland).
2. That ‘demand’ falls for a
History of Thought class can be influenced by other faculty, or by a particular
individual teacher’s performance.
I do know that even in the last ten years the number – and quality! – of
History of Economic Thought societies, here and abroad, particularly in Europe,
South America, Japan and China, has increased noticeably.
If I were fit enough to
travel, I could attend at least a dozen new ones that regularly feature senior
and outstanding scholars known to me each year.
Moreover, the rising
quality of the US and European History of Economics Societies is manifest in the quality of the
papers published from senior and newly graduated students to the crowded
journals, and in some of those that are narrowly rejected. I know this from
refereeing a half-dozen or more papers each year and from reading the new ones
that are published in my small segment of interest (Adam Smith studies).
For these reasons I am
more enthusiastic about the future of non-orthodox economics theory and
applications than Chris appears to be.
Equilibrium theory,
rational expectations and the obsession with prediction ritual magic is, and deserves
to be, under challenge.
2 Comments:
In science 'orthodox' would probably be almost synonymous with consensus. Consensus Science comprising what most scientists would be the best theory to fit observed data.
Is this the same in economics? Does 'orthodox' have the best theories to explain the state of the current economy? If not, why not?
PeterM
The short answer is no, that is not how orthodox neoclassical economists think.
They have a theory of rational expectations, support by maths as if it was perfectly true, and make predictions based on it.
Orthodox economics failed to explain the current crisis
Gavin
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