Once More On Chomsky
From Lost
Legacy (May 2009);
From Noam
Chomsky: Education is Ignorance (2 May) in W.E.A.L.L.B.E. here:
“Noam
Chomsky: I didn't do any research at all on Smith. I just read him. There's no
research. Just read it. He's pre-capitalist, a figure of the Enlightenment.
What we would call capitalism he despised. People read snippets of Adam Smith,
the few phrases they teach in school. Everybody reads the first paragraph of
The Wealth of Nations where he talks about how wonderful the division of labor
is. But not many people get to the point hundreds of pages later, where he says
that division of labor will destroy human beings and turn people into creatures
as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be. And therefore
in any civilized society the government is going to have to take some measures
to prevent division of labor from proceeding to its limits."
Comment
I reproduce
this quotation from the post I made on Lost Legacy in May 2009, because there
is a persistent, and persisting, amount of comment on my comments on Chomsky’s
quotation from several people, the most recent a couple of day ago, criticising
my challenge to Chomsky, all whom appear to be in contact with Chomsky. Its as if these exchanges are going the
rounds – in a tutor’s class notes?
And this starts off a new exchange regularly. I am grateful for the attention but would prefer if
critics kept up to date with the Blog when posting their repetitive comments, if
only to save me looking so far back through the files to find the original.
Here is
Chomsky’s quotation as presented by Andrew in 2009:
A reader, “andrew”,
kindly offered this quotation:
"Adam
Smith, The Wealth of Nations, Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1976
(original 1776). An excerpt (Book I, ch. X, p. 111):
“The
whole of the advantages and disadvantages of the different employments of
labour and stock must, in the same neighbourhood, be either perfectly equal or
continually tending to equality. If in the same neighbourhood, there was any
employment evidently either more or less advantageous than the rest, so many
people would crowd into it in the one case, and so many would desert it in the
other, that its advantages would soon return to the level of other employments.
This at least would be the case in a society where things were left to follow
their natural course, where there was perfect liberty, and where every man was
perfectly free both to chuse what occupation he thought proper, and to change
it as often as he thought proper.”
I replied,
as did other commentators, that Chomsky confused equality, as in modern
distributive justice theories, which was not agenda in mid-18th-century
philosophy, nor meant as such by Smith. The quotation from Wealth Of Nations referred explicitly to
equality of incomes from certain types of labour in a locality, compensating
for adverse circumstances or types of labour.
“From Noam
Chomsky...
’I… took the trouble to check the reference I cited, which says
exactly what I said it did. You don’t have to be a Smith scholar to see that my
paraphrase of the passage I referenced is exactly accurate. If you read the
other comments you’ll see that they are trying to evade the fact by claiming,
falsely, that I was confusing differentials with income equality. Nothing of
the kind. I simply cited Smith accurately, giving the source so anyone could
check. The rest is just the usual
childish slanders that deface the internet."
Well, I
checked the source that Chomsky quoted and confirmed it did not confirm
Chomsky’s interpretation.
In the other
quotation from Chomsky referring to the division of labour and Chomsky’s
interpretation of what Smith meant, I have also commented on Lost Legacy that
the reference in Book V on the negative affects of the division of labour is at
variance with Chomsky’s.
Basically,
Chomsky jumps to a conclusion that Smith was of the view that the government
should prevent the division of labour from continuing to “its limits”:
Chomsky notes: ‘But not many people
get to the point hundreds of pages later, where he says that division of labor
will destroy human beings and turn people into creatures as stupid and ignorant
as it is possible for a human being to be.’
Now, some
parts of this sentence are fine, some parts woefully wrong, and almost all of
it out of historical context. I have no idea how Chomsky concludes what he
does.
The
relevant section reference is ‘Article ii’, ‘Of the Expense of the
Institutions for the Education of Youth’, pages 758-88, of Book V of Wealth
Of Nations, and the relevant page is 782 (from the Glasgow Edition, Oxford
University Press):
“In the progress of the division of
labour, the employment of the far greater part of those who live by labour,
that is, of the great body of the people, comes to be confined to a few very
simple operations, frequently to one or two. But the understandings of the
greater part of men are necessarily formed by their ordinary employments. The
man whose whole life is spent in performing a few simple operations, of which
the effects are perhaps always the same, or very nearly the same, has no
occasion to exert his understanding or to exercise his invention in finding out
expedients for removing difficulties which never occur. He naturally loses,
therefore, the habit of such exertion, and generally becomes as stupid and
ignorant as it is possible for a human creature to become. The torpor of his
mind renders him not only incapable of relishing or bearing a part in any
rational conversation, but of conceiving any generous, noble, or tender
sentiment, and consequently of forming any just judgment concerning many even
of the ordinary duties of private life. Of the great and extensive interests of
his country he is altogether incapable of judging, and unless very particular
pains have been taken to render him otherwise, he is equally incapable of
defending his country in war. The uniformity of his stationary life naturally
corrupts the courage of his mind, and makes him regard with abhorrence the
irregular, uncertain, and adventurous life of a soldier. It corrupts even the
activity of his body, and renders him incapable of exerting his strength with
vigour and perseverance in any other employment than that to which he has been
bred. His dexterity at his own particular trade seems, in this manner, to be
acquired at the expence of his intellectual, social, and martial virtues. But
in every improved and civilized society this is the state into which the
labouring poor, that is, the great body of the people, must necessarily fall,
unless government takes some pains to prevent it.” (WN V.i.f: 782).
The
education of youth is a long and important part of Wealth Of Nations. In
it Adam Smith presents a
detailed description of the history of education from classical times to its
then state in Britain. The first notable feature was that only boys were
formally educated for a few years, if at all; girls were left to their parents
to ‘home educate’, which for the majority meant no education at all (the
majority of parents were likely to be illiterate and general ignorant).
Across
Britain the picture was patchy. England was backward educationally. It had two
universities, Oxford and Cambridge, but local schools were rare except for some
charity schools. In Scotland,
there were four universities, Edinburgh, Glasgow, St Andrews and 'Aberdeen'. Local
provision for education since the 17th century was managed by ‘little schools’
in most parishes, paid for by a mixture of charitable sources, local parental contributions
and donations. Most male children spent a year or more, some ‘bright’ children
up to age of 14. Middle class boys tended to stay longer than the children of the
poor, most of which were sent to work from about 8, their parents being near
destitute.
Smith describes
this in Book V. In fact, he offers the ‘little school’ system in Scotland as
suitable for England too (a much larger country in population and wealth than
Scotland). He envisages all children spending some time learning the ‘read,
write and account’ to extend literacy and numeracy across the majority of
children (he left open the question of education for girls, but clearly they
could be accommodated in the ‘little school’ system).
Book V is
about government expenditure and revenue. How was education to be funded? The
government would have to play a serious role in such a project, which meant
taxation of a relatively narrow taxation base. At the time taxation was a
sensitive subject (it was ever thus) and the people who would have to consent
to such an additional expense (‘little schools’ would need to be built, which
with 60,000 parishes was no mean line item in a budget) where the legislators,
mainly representative of the agricultural aristocracy and few ‘improving’
landlords.
If Chomsky re-reads the paragraph quoted
above he will note two themes in his argument. The first, which Chomsky has focused upon, is that of
the deleterious effects of the division of labour, which were of longstanding
antiquity (the division of labour preceded commerce by many millennia back into
pre-history).
Farm
labourers were marginally ‘better off’ than the fewer primitive factory
labourers, hauliers, seamen, servants and soldiers, and etc. But be clear, outdoor
farm labourers were not all dancing around May Poles and living as ‘happy
families on the prairy’. Theirs was a hard life, short too, with infirmities
and early deaths from disease, incapacity, accidents and starvation.
Into this
background Smith identifies the
‘man whose whole life is spent performing a few simple operations’ and
the consequences in his stupidity and ignorance. He does not raise the spectre
of millions living their awful rural lives in similar terms – his appeal is to
the support of the few rich men
who owned the farms and dominated parliament.
He also
turns his argument neatly as his second theme. If the sources of finance for
education (mainly the aristocrats) were not inclined to support the ‘little
schools’ from their usual selfish inclinations to prodigality, then it would be
prudent to appeal to their fears of disturbances to their sheltered lives – also,
to the steady decline in martial prowess of the uneducated mass of poorer men (Smith
knew how to write persuasively for his intended audience – he lectured in
rhetoric).
For the
indigent labourer whose ‘torpor of his mind renders him not only incapable
of relishing or bearing a part in any rational conversation, but of conceiving
any generous, noble, or tender sentiment, and consequently of forming any just
judgment concerning many even of the ordinary duties of private life' could
be written as a major threat lurking everywhere. Moreover, ‘Of the great and
extensive interests of his country he is altogether incapable of judging, and
unless very particular pains have been taken to render him otherwise, he is
equally incapable of defending his country in war. Of the great and extensive
interests of his country he is altogether incapable of judging, and unless very
particular pains have been taken to render him otherwise, he is equally
incapable of defending his country in war.’ If not inclined to rebellion,
his services in defence of the island country could be useless.
These
concerns were meant to strike a chord with that class of taxpayers who were
fearful of weak armies and of easily misled labourers who might become rebellious
(such rebel ‘mobs’ were forcing the British army out of the American colonies,
by later editions of Wealth Of Nations).
In short,
Smith was 'spinning', as we say today, a case for increased taxation to pay for
public institutions regarded as deficient in 18th-century Britain. That he was
doing so 768 pages after the ‘pin factory’ was deliberate, Few of his readers
would have the faintest idea of what went on in a factory (Marx never visited
one) and his prose was powerful because it pushed all the right buttons to
rouse the rich readers from their complacency – and not a little hostility to
more taxes – about the plight of the children of labourers.
Chomsky has not
considered this context. Hence, he can decry the division of labour and assert
with conviction that it ‘will destroy human beings and turn people into
creatures as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be’,
but not with much credibility. He apparently has no idea of how ignorant were
the members of the majority of ordinary labouring families in the 17th and 18th
centuries, let alone the millennia before then.
Empirical
evidence beats speculation. Was the result of the division of labour, even
through the horrors of the industrial revolution of the 19th century, a nation
of people who were turned into ‘creatures as stupid and ignorant as it is
possible for a human being to be?’ The division of labour did not cause the
lack of education, but the lack of education risked, deleterious consequences
unless the government took measures to remedy the lack of education. Realistically, no government could
prevent the division of labour.
Smith didn’t advocate that they did. He identified a problem and suggested that “little schools”
were the appropriate response.
Moreover,
the division of labour continued unabated. Productivity continued as pin making, for example,
became mechanised. By the 19th
century, thousands of pin-making
firms were consolidated, and by the 20th century, one or two
manufacturers undertook the entire national output of pins in fully automated
batteries of machines both in the UK and the USA. Working men commonly do a lot
more than basic ‘reading, writing,
and accounting’. The horror of
worker zombies drawn by Chomsky from these passages in Wealth Of Nations never
happened. But the Education Acts implied in Book V were passed eventually, as
were Technical Schools for employed workers, on of which, the Edinburgh School
of Arts, founded in 1822, eventually became Heriot-Watt University in 1966, a
few hundred yards from where Smith lived from 1788-90 in Panmure House.
By
exaggerating his case with colourful prose, few facts, and no history, Chomsky undermines those parts of his
case that are worthy of our attention.
3 Comments:
I wouldn't suppose that Chomsky meant that there ought to be no division of labor or that Smith thought that, or that this were even possible. People do different things and take on different tasks - it would be so silly to think otherwise I couldn't see anybody thinking it, much less Noam Chomsky.
It also looks like Chomsky's reading of Smith as saying too much specialization makes people soft in the brain and body unless otherwise checked is in line with the Smith quote and your thinking about what prompted it. You're bringing some good thoughts to the table (I assume - it's not my specialty), but I don't see what part of Chomsky's statement you are in conflict with here. Actually, it looks like Smith in your thinking is arguing for government intervention to help avoid the effects of division of labor going to their natural limit - more or less in line with that first Chomsky quote.
Isn't Chomsky an anarchist anyhow?
I think Chomsky is just noting that the way people think of free-markets and libertarianism today isn't in line with a thorough reading of Smith or other relevant base thinkers.
I'm not trying to make an argument here about how things ought to be, I just happened across this when reading on Chomsky and thought to myself - there isn't as much disagreement here as the author of this blog seems to think, or at least demonstrates.
I agree with Jacob. I see nothing in what you've said which conflicts with anything Chomsky has ever said. Perhaps just an excuse to try and attack Chomsky which seems popular among either those who know nothing about him, or those who, usually mistakenly, believe they're smarter. I have yet to see one. I recommend Michael Perelman's The Invention of Capitalism. It deal with the history, Smith's weaknesses and how he became popular, etc....
Jacob
Thanks for your comments.
I can assure you (and Chomsky) I do not deal in personal criticism of Chomsky nor anyone else. I am aware (from distant0 memory of Michael Perelman. We corresponded some years ago and we met and discussed Adam Smith at conference that we attended (before my 2nd stroke, which terminated air travel across the Atlantic - I live in Edinburgh).
I happen not to agree with some of his comments on Adam Smith.
We are allowed in academic discourse to disagree, Nobody, including Adam Smith, and myself, is beyond criticism.
Gavin
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