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From Noam Chomsky: Education is Ignorance (2 May) in W.E.A.L.L.B.E. here:
"David Barsamian: One of the heroes of the current right-wing revival... is Adam Smith. You've done some pretty impressive research on Smith that has excavated... a lot of information that's not coming out. You've often quoted him describing the "vile maxim of the masters of mankind: all for ourselves and nothing for other people."
Noam Chomsky: I didn't do any research at all on Smith. I just read him. There's no research. Just read it. He's pre-capitalist, a figure of the Enlightenment. What we would call capitalism he despised. People read snippets of Adam Smith, the few phrases they teach in school. Everybody reads the first paragraph of The Wealth of Nations where he talks about how wonderful the division of labor is. But not many people get to the point hundreds of pages later, where he says that division of labor will destroy human beings and turn people into creatures as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be. And therefore in any civilized society the government is going to have to take some measures to prevent division of labor from proceeding to its limits."
Comment
This is a long article and I wish to comment on other paragraphs, so I will focus on the above passage and return on other days to other posts.
Let me say first that Noam Chomsky is respected as a formidable intellectual with a lot of ‘hinterland’ as we say in the UK, and he says quite a lot about Adam Smith that you won’t find from many modern economists, because, as he says, few of them actually read Smith’s books. But if you put up this line of argument it is best if you show that you have read Wealth Of Nations well.
That he confesses he ‘read him’ but didn’t do ‘research’ is revealing and perhaps explains why his interpretation, given with that certainty that comes from a certain kind of intellectual bully, is actually misleading on the issue of Adam Smith and the division of labour, a common enough error among most of the Left.
Smith was a moral philosopher; he observed everything but did nothing. He didn’t bring to his work a preconceived set of prescriptions and apply them to his study of commercial society in the context of 18th-century Britain. He described, taking the long-view of history as well as his reading about and visiting fairly primitive work places to see how the division of labour increased labour productivity. And not just in the pin factory (‘a very trifling manufacture’; p14). He also, and perhaps of greater significance, he described the ‘accommodation of the most common artificer or day labourer in a civilised and thriving country’ (p 22). Here he described the long supply-chain, including its international dimensions, that produced the common labourer’s ‘woollen coat’, the ‘produce of the joint labour of a great multitude of workmen’.
Yes, the national and international division of labour is ‘wonderful’. It operated in Smith’s day without ‘central planning’, ‘central direction’, and without the help of university professors from either Glasgow (1461) or Harvard
(1636), or the sovereigns of any kingdom, or legislators and those who influenced them, in the few places where they existed.
Having discussed the division of labour and its commercial consequences in Book I of Wealth Of Nations (it created, among other things, the wealth that enabled Scotland and a British colony in North America to divert some portion of their ‘annual output of the necessities, conveniences, and amusements of life’ to the employment of professors to educate young men – no girls! – to add to the human capital of what were for many decades (in Scotland, for centuries) humans otherwise bereft of learning and sunk in ignorance.
Chomsky notes: ‘But not many people get to the point hundreds of pages later, where he says that division of labor will destroy human beings and turn people into creatures as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be.’
Now, some parts of this sentence are fine, some parts woefully wrong, and almost all of it out of historical context. I have no idea how a Harvard professor managed to attack those who ‘read the first paragraph of The Wealth of Nations’ but do not ‘get to the point hundreds of pages later’ (768 actually), and yet manifestly misleads his readers as if he hasn’t read Book V himself with the due care and attention we expect from Harvard undergraduates, let alone its senior faculty.
The relevant section reference is ‘Article ii’, ‘Of the Expense of the Institutions for the Education of Youth’, pages 758-88, of Book V of Wealth Of Nations, and the relevant page is 782 (from the Glasgow Edition, Oxford University Press):
“In the progress of the division of labour, the employment of the far greater part of those who live by labour, that is, of the great body of the people, comes to be confined to a few very simple operations, frequently to one or two. But the understandings of the greater part of men are necessarily formed by their ordinary employments. The man whose whole life is spent in performing a few simple operations, of which the effects are perhaps always the same, or very nearly the same, has no occasion to exert his understanding or to exercise his invention in finding out expedients for removing difficulties which never occur. He naturally loses, therefore, the habit of such exertion, and generally becomes as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human creature to become. The torpor of his mind renders him not only incapable of relishing or bearing a part in any rational conversation, but of conceiving any generous, noble, or tender sentiment, and consequently of forming any just judgment concerning many even of the ordinary duties of private life. Of the great and extensive interests of his country he is altogether incapable of judging, and unless very particular pains have been taken to render him otherwise, he is equally incapable of defending his country in war. The uniformity of his stationary life naturally corrupts the courage of his mind, and makes him regard with abhorrence the irregular, uncertain, and adventurous life of a soldier. It corrupts even the activity of his body, and renders him incapable of exerting his strength with vigour and perseverance in any other employment than that to which he has been bred. His dexterity at his own particular trade seems, in this manner, to be acquired at the expence of his intellectual, social, and martial virtues. But in every improved and civilized society this is the state into which the labouring poor, that is, the great body of the people, must necessarily fall, unless government takes some pains to prevent it.” (WN V.i.f: 782)
The education of youth is a long and important part of Wealth Of Nations. In it Adam Smith presents a detailed description of the history of education from classical times to its then state in Britain. The first notable feature was that only boys were formally educated for a few years; girls were left to their parents to ‘home educate’, which for the majority meant no education at all (their parents were likely to illiterate and general ignorant).
Across Britain the picture was patchy. England was largely backward educationally. It had two universities, Oxford and Cambridge, but local schools were rare. In Scotland, there were four universities, Edinburgh, Glasgow, St Andrews and 'Aberdeen'. But local provision for education since the 17th century was managed by ‘little schools’ in most parishes, paid for by a mixture of charitable sources, local contributions and donations. Most male children spent a year or more, some ‘bright’ children up to age of 14. Middle class boys tended to stay longer than the children of the poor, most of whom were sent to work from about 8, their parents near destitute.
Smith describes this in Book V. In fact, he offers the ‘little school’ system in Scotland as suitable for England too (a much larger country in population and wealth than Scotland). He envisages all children spending some time learning the ‘read, write and account’ to extend literacy across the majority of children (he left open the question of education for girls, but clearly they could be accommodated in the ‘little school’ system).
Book V is about government expenditure and revenue. How was education to be funded? The government would have to play a serious role in such a project, which meant taxation of a relatively narrow taxation base. At the time taxation was a sensitive subject (it was ever thus) and the people who would have to consent to such an additional expense (‘little schools’ would need to be built, which with 60,000 parishes was no mean line item in a budget) were the legislators, mainly representative of the agricultural aristocracy and few ‘improving’ landlords.
If Chomsky re-reads the paragraph quoted above he will note two themes in his argument. The first, which Chomsky has focused upon, is that of the deleterious effects of the division of labour, which were of longstanding antiquity (the division of labour preceded commerce by many millennia back into pre-history).
Farm labourers were marginally ‘better off’ than the fewer primitive factory labourers, hauliers, seamen, servants and soldiers, and etc. But be clear, the outdoor farm labourers were not all dancing round May Poles and living as happy families on the prairy. Theirs was a hard life, short too, with infirmities and early deaths from disease, incapacity, accidents and starvation.
Into this background Smith raises the ‘man whose whole life is spent performing a few simple operations’ and the consequences in his stupidity and ignorance. He does not raise the spectre of millions living their awful rural lives in similar terms – his appeal is to support from the few rich men who owned the farms.
He also turns his argument neatly as his second theme. If the sources of finance for education (mainly the aristocrats) were not inclined to support the ‘little schools’ from their usual selfish inclinations to prodigality, then it would be useful to appeal to their fears of disturbances to their sheltered lives – the steady decline in martial prowess of the uneducated mass of poorer men (and Smith knew how to write well).
For the indigent labourer whose ‘torpor of his mind renders him not only incapable of relishing or bearing a part in any rational conversation, but of conceiving any generous, noble, or tender sentiment, and consequently of forming any just judgment concerning many even of the ordinary duties of private life' could be written as a major threat lurking everywhere. Moreover, ‘Of the great and extensive interests of his country he is altogether incapable of judging, and unless very particular pains have been taken to render him otherwise, he is equally incapable of defending his country in war. Of the great and extensive interests of his country he is altogether incapable of judging, and unless very particular pains have been taken to render him otherwise, he is equally incapable of defending his country in war.’ If not inclined to rebellion, his services in defence of the island country could be useless.
These concerns were meant to strike a chord with that class of taxpayers who were fearful of weak armies and of easily misled labourers who might become rebellious (such rebel ‘mobs’ had forced the British army out of the colonies).
In short, Smith was 'spinning', as we say today, a case for increased taxation to pay for public institutions regarded as deficient in 18th-century Britain. That he was doing so 768 pages after the ‘pin factory’ was deliberate, Few of his readers would have the faintest idea of what went on in a factory and his prose was powerful because it pushed all the right buttons to rouse the rich readers from their complacency – and not a little hostility – about the plight of the children of labourers.
Chomsky has not considered this context. Hence, he can decry the division of labour and assert with conviction that it ‘will destroy human beings and turn people into creatures as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be’, but not with much credibility. He apparently has no idea of how ignorant were the members of the majority of ordinary labouring families in the 17th and 18th centuries, let alone the millennia before then.
Empirical evidence beats speculation. Was the result of the division of labour, even through the horrors of the industrial revolution of the 19th century, a nation of people who were turned into ‘creatures as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be?’
When Adam Smith wrote Wealth Of Nations (1764-1776) he did not have a vote under the existing franchise – in fact he never had a vote – but by the late 19th century, literacy levels were at unprecedented higher levels, ignorance was not the norm, and trade unions were beginning to exercise their functions, and were led by working men who could do a lot more than ‘read, write, and account’.
By exaggerating his case with colourful prose, few facts, and no history Chomsky undermines those parts of his case that are worthy of our attention. I shall examine the rest of his article over the next few days to see whether he can be taken seriously.
Labels: Adam Smith no ideologue, Adam Smith Quotations, Division of Labour, Education Provision
10 Comments:
Excellent post!
Chomsky has always struck me to have a wide understanding of many things outside his discipline (more so than the average person), yet those understandings being superficial upon close examination.
He's at MIT, not Harvard. Otherwise, thanks!
You ask "Empirical evidence beats speculation. Was the result of the division of labour... people who were turned into ‘creatures as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be?’ "
The seminal work on this question to my mind is Harry Braverman's Labor and Monopoly Capital which answers that it is indeed still the tendency under modern capitalism.
Perhaps in not having read any previous or subsequent articles on this topic by you, I seem to have missed your point.
Here's a portion of what Chomsky said:
… “But not many people get to the point hundreds of pages later, where he says that division of labor will destroy human beings and turn people into creatures as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human being to be. And therefore in any civilized society the government is going to have to take some measures to prevent division of labor from proceeding to its limits.”
Smith's logic, similarly, was that the division of labor, if taken to the point of absurdity, would lead humans to become “as stupid and ignorant as it is possible for a human creature to become.” Smith then began to discuss the government's role in a semi-socialized educational system.
I'm not too sure I understand that these points are in conflict. Chomsky never said anything about the abolishment of the division of labor; though, you're seemingly arguing that he had. Nor did Chomsky ever insinuate that Smith's logic was that of socialism. Nor did Chomsky say that capitalism should be abolished. He simply outlined the fact that his form of liberalism is similar to that of Smith.
What Chomsky is arguing against, as he always does, is the illogical authoritarian-esque conclusions of what is currently referred to as neoliberalism—an ideology which Adam Smith is often propped up as a hero for. Chomsky, as he has done clearly and consistently throughout the years, is simply saying that the underpinnings of neoliberalism are more closely related to notions of empire and domination, than to the ideals expressed by Smith. And that Smith is only being used a a rhetorical device by neoliberalists to foster adherence to an illogical ideal that Smith would likely oppose.
You're argument is that Chomsky misinterpreted Smith, though you never say why or how—you only provide a mental-gymnasium of literary deconstruction on Smith's work. I don't think anybody is arguing that the division of labor is anything besides an obvious feature of human-kind.
The expressed intention of Taylorism was to drive down the bargaining power of workers by dividing labor precisely in the manner postulated by Adam Smith. This method was expanded to educational institutions during the industrial revolution. In this sense, Chomsky's analysis is accurate regardless of the historical realities of Smith's time.
Thanks to the blogger here and thanks to those who wrote comments. As a business school professor, I've always wanted to learn more about the context of Chomsky's comments about Adam Smith. I'm going to put the extended quote on my office door. It is refreshing to see a civilized, informative intelligent discussion between a blogger and his or her critics. Far too often, when someone disagrees with a blogger, there is just name calling, personal attacks, trolls, etc. in the comments section.
your argument seems to work except that as you point out, without some governement intervention and a little persuasive writing from Smith himself to get the ball rolling, things do get ugly with the division of labour in a capitalist society which is all he said in the first place. There is no doubt that child labour was a direct result of machines firstly being able to replace humans and make things far more competitive driving the cost of wages down to next to nothing. An influx of the population from agricultural areas into the cities because of the reduced number of agricultural jobs and then the division of labour too aided and allowed for children who were small to operate the machines in mills an factories under the worst conditions imaginable. Ive always liked what Smith said about monopolies and cabals influencing policy myself and found it refreshing that Chomsky sees Smith much in the same light I saw him in. HE never layed out the map for the type of system that we see today where coorporations seem to have a very firm grip on the policies of America. The recent wall street collapse is a good example of the kind of legislation that Smith warmned about ( finacial services modernization act). I dont think Chomsky really takes it beyond this kind of simpler general view of Smith who is most certainly taken out of context by those in favour of the type of unbridled capitalism we see today.
I agree that Chomsky is mostly opposed to those who use Smith's ideas to support the type of capitalism we see today, whereby things like the finacial services modernization act get passed by leaders like Bill Clinton which ultimately lead to the worst economic collapse since the great depression, when Smith clearly advised to scrutinze any legislation passed on behalf of monopolies and cabals and surely also meant not to allow coorporations to influence policy for their own benefit at the cost of the greater good. He is against the use of Smith to support what has become something almost unforseeable to Smith at the time, but that he had some insight into nonetheless. This blog is based somehwat on a strawman argument in that you have misrepresented Chomskys position.
Also since Smith himself had to persuade the governent to end child labour, it doesnt lend much to the argument that the division of labour was a good thing without government intervention. It wasnt long after the industrial revolution began that child labour became a problem.
I guess it would be the same to read you, I should not trust what you say as truth regarding Adam Smith and The Wealth of Nations. Difference being two fold - first off Noam Chomsky is a world renowned professor and scholar and who are you? But be that as it may, I do agree that you should not take some well know person's word on anything - you must do your own research. But what happens when you don't have the time to research everything - I mean I have a job and family and frankly sometimes it is impossible to check everything. So here is what I do - I happen to be an educator and I know for a fact that "No Child Left Behind" is the biggest scam there is for justification of corporate privatization of public schools education. This is something I do know quite a lot about - and you know what Chomsky hits the nail on the head, he tells it as it is. This is why this brilliant person is kept off television, and if he tells the truth about what I know is true - Guess what ? I believe him over you.
By the way, you should read all of Noam Chomsky and what he said about Adam Smith, because he does say later on that he did do some research - when it came to what the University of Chicago school of economics had to say. FYI did you know who founded the University of Chicago hmm? The great American Crony Capitalist monopoly owning US family know as the Rockefeller's. What crap these people are. One day all the monuments they erect to themselves to cover up their lies and murders will be torn down.
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